Apologies if this was already posted at a different time. I thought it was really interesting hearing advice on a restart by a M.D. Have you got a link to the vitamin D study? Hey, I followed PCT protocol mentioned by user sahmoo. HPTA Restart after TRT: HPTA Restart Protocol. Maybe even longer. Jesus!!!! yeah, you're right. I've seen several members pop in and say, "HEY IM GOING TO RESTART AFTER A YEAR OF XXX AND XXX AND I ONLY HAVE THIS DRUG TO RECOVER", with the utmost confidence, but they never return to update us on their recovery nor do they respond to PMs. Scally … In addition that Nolva has shown to reduce IGF-1 and GH levels. Found this HPTA Restart Protocol from 2013 posted in another forum(the guy who wrote it is inactive). 30. I decided to write this and give hope to anyone who is experiencing difficulties with recoverying from any cycle. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. After getting my blood work done again last week, i received the results this morning and my Testosterone has gone up to 460 ng/dL from 129 2 months ago. I had bloods done on the NHS because I went to see my GP but they were useless, they didn't give me the results and said my T was in normal ranges. I am working with an endocrinologist who i am pretty sure has little experience with someone who is shutdown from steroid usage. Thats absurd that you think you need that much HCG t recover. As you're 23 your biggest mistake was running cycles at all. Go and get some professional help. I followed the Protocol to the letter, the evidence I can offer is purely down to my experience. Testosterone Replacement and Anabolic Steroids – Side Effect Management – Interview With Dr. Michael Scally – Part 2. There are no published data on the subject, so this book is groundbreaking. You've got to do your research and find someone who specialises in this kind of thing. Well, I just came off of 37 weeks of gear, with blood work before, during and after. A type II AI will compete with the aromatase enzyme and then eventually unbind from it and it will be active again, this can cause the undesirable estro bound. Dr. Michael Scally PCT Protocol: Is There A … Day 31-45 : Nolva 40mg/day (20mg was taken twice per day). He also typically prescribed testosterone … I'm currently trying the reboot protocol for same symptoms if this fails I'm going to run this im struggling at min with the clomid dosages day 3 at 150mg did you suffer? 1-35 clomiphene 50mg morning and night. 6'1" 15% body fat . Not a good move but it seems you know this already. Being 25 and having done what you've done doesn't really make it any better. A restart protocol as nothing to do with what scally says. My age is 23 and i have several years lifting experience and i have not juiced since the last cycle below. I'm asking because I'm considering using Aromasin, but at the same time I don't want to deviate from the protocol. It was a protocol recommended by a medical professional, which was why I posted it; I thought it was interesting and worth discussing. I am so glad that Dr Scally wrote a simple explanation on a protocol that may help reset our body's own hormonal axis to prevent the debilitating effects of "post-steroid crashing." I was scared that i have to TRT for the rest of my life. 37 weeks...Jelly. Days 1-30 Clomid 100mg ED This can be more useful than lab results. Not enough, and the heat is turned up (to put it very simply). We know for most part we wait for about 14-21 days for long esters to clear or when start feeling the crash to start PCT. During a cycle is not to worried about too much cause test increase IGF-1 levels on a dose dependant relationship. From 1975-1980, in the M.I.T. You can check overall thyroid function by checking oral body temperatures as per the thyroid basics sticky. Dr Scally reviews data on the use of anabolic steroids for the following medical uses: By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. pioneered the use of three drugs in the world’s first clinically-tested PCT treatment protocol. Scally’s protocol probably wrong. I’m training again and feeling very good, difference is, no more gear for me, I’m done. Apologies if … My test levels are 12,6 nmol/l, ref 8,4-28,7. Use the magnifying glass up top. After i had finished cycle i did Clomid/Nolva PCT. Do you have some bloods to post to show your recovery? I can tell you don't have much experience with steroids. Please join this discussion about The famous PoWeR PCT Program by Dr. Michael Scally within the Anabolic Steroids category. For me it was a complete success, my sexual function and drives are back to where they were before I started using. I would also ask you to watch and read the book from Thomas O'Connor which is a much more accurate doc than the bro science father, doctor Scally (which is now out of the map) She has me scheduled for a brain MRI to make sure i have no underling causes, after we get the results back and assuming everything in normal on the MRI i am going to have a couple options. This is such of interesting read for me that I share this info with some close friends here in the forum( you all my friends BTW) There is so much to read about this guy and his base on stuides results from AAS user and their recovery that is amazing IMO. #1 - PCT and HPTA Normalization Post cycle therapy Welcome to the Peak-Muscle.com forums. Come join us in on one of the best online fitness communities. It makes more sense to me if i ran a protocol that has been proven rather than working with an endo who doesn't have much experience. Scally protocol is not good at all. After 3 years of using then abusing I decided that I wanted to fully come off. Twitter. You can do a restart [or PCT] with SERM or hCG then SERM. Any thoughts, if this might actually work? MICHAEL SCALLY (MS): My education includes a double degree major in Chemistry (1975) and Life Sciences (1975) from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.) I am so glad that Dr Scally wrote a simple explanation on a protocol that may help reset our body’s own hormonal axis to prevent the debilitating effects of “post-steroid crashing.” There are no published data on the subject, so this book is groundbreaking. Too Young For TRT? One being the HCG protocol, which is not only counterproductive and will inhibit HPTA function via intertesticular aromatization, but a waste due to a refractory period in the leydig cell receptors after the initial injection. Excerpt: Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day. Re: Advice wanted on withdrawing from HPTA restart meds « Reply #6 on: January 07, 2014, 03:32:18 pm » It is also worth mentioning that the CDnuts protocol mentions that you can substitute "juice feasting" (as per the site www.juicefeasting.com ) or a period of eating a raw diet as a substitute for fasting. I'm glad to hear that your have recovered. My question is how long should i wait before starting a new cycle? Excerpt: Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day. Let me know how your recovery goes. Toremefine Nolva pct. In particular, Dr. Michael Scally, M.D. This is especially true when a HPTA-recovery protocol, to “restart” LH production, is desired (the details of which remain beyond the scope of this document) secondary to anabolic steroid or prohormones use, as well as other hormone disrupting influences. Scally protocol is not good at all. I read before this is a waste of HCG but he stated this method is more effective( at least for test C & 19nor which is in this case). This can be more useful than lab results. PCT start. 190lbs. Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day (50mg was taken twice per day) Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day. I am not qualified to give you advice but the reason I did this PCT when all the Bro-science remedy's didn't work , was because it is designed by someone who is qualified , respected and knows his shit. Even cialis/viagra did not help me. For the love of God's divine providence, keep us updated. Labs: TT FT E2 LH/FSH prolactin fasting glucose fasting cholesterol - … What do you think? Why ``How To Lower SHBG Levels?`` is NOT the Right Question - SHBG Testosterone. stick with me. Rookie Join … In June 1980, Dr. Scally was awarded by Harvard Medical School a Doctorate of Medicine, M.D. Days 1-16 HCG 2500Iu EOD I feel like absolute death through out the day. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. Ok lets take a look how this PCT was used so we can discuss here what is the diffrence between what is recommed it on most of the PCT threads and what they used for this study. FSH - .9 mIU/mL normal 1.4-18.1, I just wanted to offer some feedback regarding Dr Scallys power PCT. On cycle Test taper, followed up with Clomid and Test.Days -20 to -14: 50mg Test Prop EDDays -14 to -07: 25mg Test Prop EDDays -07 to 00: 25mg Test Prop E2DDays 00 to 04: NothingDays 04-14: Clomid @ 50mg, Nolva @ 40mg EDDays 15-25: Clomid @ 25mg, Nolva @ 20 mg ED. I did use HCG and caber during the cycle. Edited May 15, 2013 by linonel 33 In other words, Scally was prescribing anabolic steroids to otherwise healthy patients. 4) as far as i know HGC will not help bring your hpta system back. After doing that i felt i was recovering and feeling better thankfully. Dr. Scally's PCT protocol This was posted at a forum I belong to by a member named Pikiki. Labs: TT FT E2 LH/FSH prolactin fasting glucose fasting cholesterol - can … Free Test - 12.6 pg/mL normal 35-155 INFO. Happily discussing all things related to the safe usage of AAS, TRT or hormone replacement with the exception of sourcing information. Just want to let you all know that i have finally recovered. I'd just like to see them come back and let us know how it went or what it was like. Scally is bogus and because many refer to his PCT does not mean that it is correct, safe or effective. The body sees it as exogenous LH and it can be used to stimulate the leydig cells but not restart the HPTA 03-07-2013, 11:10 AM #16. Steroids with Michael Scally, M.D. It took 6 months for the total to fully recover. http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/toremifene-pct-to-answer-all-those-questions. In my situation time the esters cleared so that people know who you are ingesting plan even though has! 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